'Evil,' ripping off babies' legs, $1K for liver: 3 shocking scenes in CMP’s undercover videos

By Samantha Kamman, Christian Post Reporter Thursday, August 15, 2024

1. I might ask for a second set of forceps … pull off a leg or two, so it’s not PBA' 

One of the newly released videos shows a conversation Daleiden had at the 2015 National Abortion Federation event with Dr. Ann Schutt-Ainé, the chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast in Houston, Texas, and its vice president of abortion access, Tram Nguyen. Posing as a representative of a fetal tissue procurement company, Daleiden is heard telling the Planned Parenthood official that his organization is looking for organs, especially fetal livers and hearts. 

Schutt-Ainé replied that she could provide those “without too much difficulty at all.” In response to a question from Daleiden regarding whether she is “more careful” when obtaining babies' organs, the abortionist said, “a lot of it has to do with dilation.”

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“Because when you have good dilation, a cervix that’s either well-dilated or just softer and more pliable, then as you bring the fetus down, you can get more of it out before disarticulation occurs,” she added. 

Without dilation, she added, an abortionist is limited in what they can remove with their forceps, which she noted is almost like “picking.” She went on to say that she would rather do three or four “passes,” which CMP noted refers to passes of forceps into the woman’s body to remove the unborn child. 

Nguyen then entered the conversation, stating, “There are some that are like, I need you to make one more pass, one more pass.” Schutt-Ainé chimed in to clarify that this is to avoid “PBA,” a reference to partial-birth abortion.

A federal law banning partial-birth abortion prohibits abortionists from delivering a live baby — either head-first with the entire head outside the mother or the trunk past the navel in a feet-first delivery — and then killing the baby. 

Schutt-Ainé added, “If I’m doing a procedure, and I’m seeing that I’m in fear that it’s about to come to the umbilicus [navel], I might ask for a second set of forceps to hold the body at the cervix and pull off a leg or two, so it’s not PBA.”